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Top 100?

Posted by Radatz on June 27, 2017 at 2:10 PM


Maybe you caught NFLN's 'top 100' series for 2017, or maybe not, but it's done and the list is published (even in Wikipedia). Voted by 902 players. Big news was Brady making #1 for the second time, the only 2-timer at #1 so far in the short-lived (since 2011) list.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Top_100_Players_of_2017


The room for debate is of course cavernous, so these lists are always fun. But filtering is fun too. For example, based on the list, what's the best offensive lineup you could have (excluding such minutiae as 'chemistry' etc.)? Well, assuming a common setup of 3 WRs, 1 TE and 1 RB, it would look like this:


QB: Tom Brady

RB: LeVeon Bell

WRs: Julio Jones, Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham

TE: Rob Gronkowski

C: Travis Frederick

G: Marshal Yanda, Zack Martin

OT: Tyron Smith, Joe Thomas


Another interesting note is that, in the 'age of the cornerback', not one cracked the top 18. Peterson of KC was 19, Sherman was 21.


And one more detail: how were the QBs ranked within the list?


1. Brady

6. Rodgers

10. Ryan

11. Carr

14. Prescott

16. Brees

22. Ben

24. Wilson

31. Stafford

44. Newton

50. Mariota

51. Luck

57. Winston

70. Cousins

73. Rivers

81. A. Smith


A lot of omissions. Cam probably should have been one of them based on team impact, stats, and those left off the list. It's hard to find a QB with a worse completion percentage in 2016, and perhaps hard to find a less inspiring team leader north of Ozzy and Goff. Winston sits 13 spots back despite making the playoffs over Cam in the same division? Both Mariota and Luck led supposedly worse teams to better records. Eli Manning's not even on the list despite an 11-5 year for the Giants and a 63% completion percentage (Cam's was 52%)?



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10 Comments

Reply the immortal scurds
5:45 PM on June 27, 2017 
prescott certainy doesntbbelongb that high. he belongs somewhere around mariota, but carr deserves his rank.just look at that team without him. cousins is too lo. let me see
ryan
brady
rodgers
carr
brees
stafford
cousins
rivers
ben
prescott
luck
wilson
winston
mariota
manning/goff
Reply the immortal scurds
5:55 PM on June 27, 2017 
i will take ryan throwing to aj green julio jones and antonio brown.
with devonta freeman in the backfield.
i'll pass on gronk and take jordan reed instead. we pass on every down by the way. the oline looks fine
Reply Radatz
7:31 PM on June 27, 2017 
Ryan had a great year, but face it, he went 13-6. Brady went 14-1, not to mention beating him head-to-head in the big one in dramatic fashion. Probably what those 902 players were thinking.

I do think he deserved 2nd place over Rodgers though. Same basic logic.

Why so low on Manning? I can't stand him but he went 11-5 with a head case wideout.
Reply the immortal scurds
9:04 PM on June 27, 2017 
i can make a very strong case for ryan, rad. i know why brady is at the top. consider ryan's season, because its a historical one:
First in QB Rating at 117.1 - which is the fifth highest rating in NFL history
Second in passing TDs with 38 against only 7 interceptions
Second in passing yards with 4,944
First in yards per attempt at 9.26 - which is the highest ever in NFL history for a season
The only QB in 2016 to throw at least 1 TD pass in all 16 games
Third in completion rate at 69.9%
Second in yards/game at 309.0
-and you know how it ended so brady gets the nod.but i feel justified taking ryan in this case.
Reply the immortal scurds
9:12 PM on June 27, 2017 
i would be ok taking prescott off the list in fact. and putting manning higher. its tough to order them. i'm not all in on carr being this high to be honest, but if i apply your winning record logic etc. there he is. its hard to see him there above brees rivers stafford and rothlisberger.lol
Reply Radatz
12:01 AM on June 28, 2017 
Prescott and Carr were good but the list isn't scientific. If you got a lot to prove, they don't belong there. If it's for the guys who were best just this year (which it should be) then how's Newton on it? Ryan got MVP but the SB changed a lot of perceptions in the last 18 minutes or so. Since they ranked Ryan 10th, I bet he wouldn't have gotten near #1 even if Atlanta won.
Reply vapor5
6:45 AM on June 28, 2017 
Brees and Wilson a liitle lower. Winston higher.
Brees has become so predictable .
Reply the immortal scurds
6:42 PM on June 28, 2017 
cant argue too much, rad. but they liked him enough to give him mvp.
interesting vape cuz winston caught my eye too.i think he is going to pan out and have a better year this year, and is brees predictable? or is the team stale. virtually any and all success nwo has is because of drew brees.
Reply Radatz
1:54 AM on June 29, 2017 
I wonder which QBs voted Brady #1? I know Winston did; he was one of the guys with a comment spot. Bet Ben did too. Love to see that list.
Reply vapor5
6:25 AM on June 29, 2017 
scurds- Brees and Coach Payton are joined at the hip so Brees is complicit in the staleness